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标题: 关于这两道with句首到底要不要修饰逻辑主语? [打印本页]
作者: 骡子桑 时间: 2015-8-25 00:05
标题: 关于这两道with句首到底要不要修饰逻辑主语?
整理了一天的with的用法,请各位NN帮忙看一下,我实在有点晕了。。。
PREP08 220
The fact of some fraternal twins resembling each othergreatly and others looking quite dissimilar highlights an interesting and oftenoverlooked feature of fraternal-twin pairs, namely they vary considerably on aspectrum of genetic relatedness.
B.That some fraternal twins resemble each other greatly while others look quitedissimilar highlights an interesting and often overlooked feature offraternal-twin pairs, namely that they vary considerably
D.With some fraternal twins resembling each other greatly and others lookingquite dissimilar, it is a fact that highlights an interesting and oftenoverlooked feature of fraternal-twin pairs, namely a considerable variation
根据之前DUKB24在这条帖子里总结过,关于(句首)with+n+doing, XXX 可以不需要逻辑主语
3.有时候with是不需要逻辑主语的(不像例子1,with的逻辑主语是he)
prep出现的正确句子:
With the cost of wirelessservice plummeting in the last year and mobile phones becoming increasinglycommon, many people are now using theirmobile phones to make calls across a wide region at night and on weekends, whennumerous wireless companies provide unlimited airtime for a relatively smallmonthly fee.
但是这道题,Ron的回答却是从逻辑主语这个切入点来排除D的,贴一下:
* the sentence openers starting with "with" are incorrect. to work properly, they'd have to be followed by a subject that's actually "with" those things.
example: with five all-state players in its backfield, ballard high looks to shut down opposing offenses completely --> this makes sense, because ballard high actually has five all-state players in its backfield, thus justifying the use of "with". there's no corresponding sense of possession / belonging here.
this kills (c) and (d).
请问到底是DUKB错了吗?还是with在句首,可以逻辑主语不保持一致,也可以保持一致,具体看with和主句的关系?
作者: Evelyn_ho 时间: 2015-8-25 10:58
with短语做状语三个功能)(伴随原因、动作、状态是独立主格的基本功能,只是因为三种独立主格形式的不同具体应用起来也不同罢了):
1. 表示原因,此时不需要考虑逻辑主语,只是修饰前面整句
2. 表示伴随动作(非伴随结果),此时需要注意逻辑主语,且前面不能是完成时态(这样就不能伴随动作了).(with短语要表示伴随结果则需要用with the result of,如prep2-193).
3. 表示状态(此时前面需要是主系表),同样需要逻辑主语。
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这是我看prep笔记的时候看到别人的总结,而且我发现这里也适用的。
DUK的例句中符合第一种情况,说明原因,所以是不需要逻辑主语
而Ron的例句是说明一种状态,因此要attach主语说明是谁的状态。
而原句中含义并不是说明(因为一些双胞胎之间很像而一些不像,所以强调了一个blabla的事实,这并不是原因,不符合状况1,而其他也没有D中可以attach的逻辑主语。
说的有些乱 不过with真的是gmat里面挺烦人的一个语法点,我想如果理解透了with句子在具体情况中表示的meaning和逻辑关系,其实不用记那么多规则,直接按照meaning去做。
作者: 骡子桑 时间: 2015-8-25 11:19
非常感谢!说的不乱,很清楚。
我整理下来也是这样的感觉,没有固定的公式套用,因为也有很多人在Manhattan的论坛上问Ron,Ron没有正面回复过这些问题,都是说在那道题的情况下,balabala可以。然后在另一道题,又说另一种可以,所以看得人就非常纠结。。。
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