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作者: 薰衣紫草 时间: 2005-4-6 05:59
标题: OG 261

搜索了半个小时的链接, 还是看不明白.

261. Being a United States citizen since 1988 and born in Calcutta in 1940. author Bharati Mukherjee has lived in England and Canada, and first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers' Workshop.

(A) Being a United States citizen since 1988 and born in Calcutta in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee has

(B) Having been a United States citizen since 1988, she was born in Calcutta in 1940; author Bharati Mukherjee

(D) Being born in Calcutta in 1940 and having been a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee (C)

(E) Having been born in Calcutta in 1940 and being a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee

为何OG说:In A, the phrase Being... and born violates parallelism . 我觉得平行的很好啊.

还有, 答案C里怎么可以用逗号, 而且还是用and连接的, 同一主语.

作者: likui 时间: 2005-4-6 13:49

选项里出现being就直接排除吧，这是“公理”；

C里是分号吧，既然用了就是分句子的，同不同主语就不关键了。

作者: 薰衣紫草 时间: 2005-4-6 23:56

我要搞清楚为什么ETS说不平行.

lived in England and Canada , and first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers' Workshop. 看见逗号了吗?

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作者: 薰衣紫草 时间: 2005-4-8 02:07
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作者: Avantasia 时间: 2005-4-8 08:05

过去分词本身是可以和现在分词平行的，但是要在它们是形容词的时候，这里的born是was born的缩略，而born做为形容词是“天生的”意思，这里不可能。

推论1：这里是主被动的平行

推论2：主被动平行Awkward

结论：不选

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作者: 薰衣紫草 时间: 2005-4-8 09:05

那来看一下这句句子

OG210. Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.

(A) extending

(B) extends

(D) it extended

(E) is extending

spawned与extending平行, 我不觉得这里是形容词的平行.

作者: Avantasia 时间: 2005-4-8 13:06

恩，MM看的够仔细！（不是祈使句：））

第一题里面Being是现在的时态，born是过去的时态，省略是要省略相同的部分，可是这里面补出助动词，主语一致，但是Be动词不同，虽然时态不同可以平行，但是感觉应该是完整的句子，这样才符合省略的原理。

时间紧，没有资料论证，MM自己看一下吧。

作者: Chamao 时间: 2005-4-8 16:21
赞成！Being是现在的时态（且主动），born是过去的时态（且被动），而且有个SINCE 1988表示要用Has been -->故改为having been born才可阿！

作者: weichenli 时间: 2005-8-25 17:06

以下是引用Avantasia在2005-4-8 8:05:00的发言：

过去分词本身是可以和现在分词平行的，但是要在它们是形容词的时候，这里的born是was born的缩略，而born做为形容词是“天生的”意思，这里不可能。

推论1：这里是主被动的平行

推论2：主被动平行Awkward

结论：不选

great explanation thanks!

作者: weichenli 时间: 2005-8-25 17:31

以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-4-6 23:56:00的发言：

我要搞清楚为什么ETS说不平行.

lived in England and Canada , and first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers' Workshop. 看见逗号了吗?

我越看越糊塗了!

請問逗號是什麼意思呢?

不是在看 being 跟 born 的比較嗎? came 也有什麼作用嗎? 謝謝

作者: weichenli 时间: 2005-9-22 16:37

who can help explan why there is a comma there?? and does "has lived" parallel to " came"????

作者: 阿尔的太阳 时间: 2005-9-28 18:14

以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-4-6 5:59:00的发言：

搜索了半个小时的链接, 还是看不明白.

(A) Being a United States citizen since 1988 and born in Calcutta in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee has

(B) Having been a United States citizen since 1988, she was born in Calcutta in 1940; author Bharati Mukherjee

(D) Being born in Calcutta in 1940 and having been a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee (C)

(E) Having been born in Calcutta in 1940 and being a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee

为何OG说:In A, the phrase Being... and born violates parallelism . 我觉得平行的很好啊.

还有, 答案C里怎么可以用逗号, 而且还是用and连接的, 同一主语.

我也不明白，用排除法选c没有问题。但是c为什么最后用she has? she has lived in England and Canada, and first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers' Workshop. 平行吗？

有大牛路过救救我吧，实在想不通。

作者: janetzhj 时间: 2005-9-29 12:41
同问？

作者: afei 时间: 2005-10-5 00:38

顶一下。

作者: Avantasia 时间: 2005-10-5 14:05

以下是引用阿尔的太阳在2005-9-28 18:14:00的发言：

以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-4-6 5:59:00的发言：

搜索了半个小时的链接, 还是看不明白.

(A) Being a United States citizen since 1988 and born in Calcutta in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee has

(B) Having been a United States citizen since 1988, she was born in Calcutta in 1940; author Bharati Mukherjee

(D) Being born in Calcutta in 1940 and having been a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee (C)

(E) Having been born in Calcutta in 1940 and being a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee

为何OG说:In A, the phrase Being... and born violates parallelism . 我觉得平行的很好啊.

还有, 答案C里怎么可以用逗号, 而且还是用and连接的, 同一主语.

ETS对于平行的界定里面不针对时态，也就是说一句话可以前后时态不统一，把握大语法点。

作者: vedder 时间: 2005-10-8 11:17

我错选了d

开始我看见后面有个“，and first came”直接就把“has lived”排除了

心说可算找到个大语法错误了（平行）

唉，sc有难度啊，这题是不是也可以算难题了啊？

作者: amy9301 时间: 2005-10-8 22:23

作者: vedder 时间: 2005-10-12 13:45
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作者: angeliana 时间: 2005-10-12 14:25

261. Being a United States citizen since 1988 and born in LACE w:st="on">CalcuttaLACE> in 1940. author Bharati Mukherjee has lived in England and Canada, and first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the LACE w:st="on">IowaLACE> Writers' Workshop.

(A) Being a United States citizen since 1988 and born in LACE w:st="on">CalcuttaLACE> in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee has

(B) Having been a United States citizen since 1988, she was born in Calcutta in 1940; author Bharati Mukherjee

(C) Born in Calcutta in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee became a LACE w:st="on">United StatesLACE> citizen in 1988; she has

(D) Being born in Calcutta in 1940 and having been a LACE w:st="on">United StatesLACE> citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee (C)

(E) Having been born in Calcutta in 1940 and being a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee

这道题是否这样理解呢偶的思路：

本句是前后两句话，用分号隔开，根据动作的前后逻辑关系排除 A 和B

根据一出现BEING就排除的原则轻松排除D和E

剩下对C项的理解：author Bharati Mukherjee has lived in , 是指这个人现在至今生活在England and Canada,而（后半句）说明Bharati Mukherjee 第一次到USA的原因目的。而前半句只是一个事实的陈述。句子的重点在后半句（因为它说的是现在的情况和对前半句的一个原因补充）。

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作者: weichenli 时间: 2005-10-12 16:22

以下是引用Avantasia在2005-10-5 14:05:00的发言：

ETS对于平行的界定里面不针对时态，也就是说一句话可以前后时态不统一，把握大语法点。

but how about the grammar?

She has lived in England and Canada, and first came to the US in 1961 to study.

作者: brent_zhang 时间: 2006-1-11 15:41

In D and E, the use of progressive forms (Being born, having been. Having been born, and being) implies continuous action

这几个分词形式还原后分别是什么时态啊？

作者: brent_zhang 时间: 2006-1-12 10:43
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作者: promising 时间: 2006-2-9 17:09

对于现在分词, ets认为都是progressive verb forms,

suggest continuous action.

但是我不懂的是为什么能用author B M has lived...

现在完成时怎么能和came 连用呢?

作者: promising 时间: 2006-2-9 20:50

has 的问题已经搞定,表示 an indefinite time in the past.

eg. I have been to England.

作者: titatita 时间: 2006-2-18 22:10

comma的问题尚未解决,哪位nn给讲下?

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作者: xuedidage 时间: 2006-2-19 14:02

You see, the sentence she has lived in England and Canada, and first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the LACE w:st="on">IowaLACE> Writers' Workshop.

seperated from the first sentence by a ';', which means it is related to first part, but it has nothing to do with the first part grammatically. 'she has lived in Eng, and first came to the United States in ....' is a perfectly valide form. Treat the part after ';' as a complete new sentence.

作者: liweiseed 时间: 2006-2-20 12:52

看到现在已经有点晕了,我想问问,是不是HAVING BEEN 这种形式放在句首是可以接受的,而在修饰名词时是不可以接受的,对马?比如这道题OG也没说HAVING BEEN这个形式错,对吗?看到HAVING BENN,BEING就有点不清楚!

还有这个逗号是肯定要的,因为AND前后两个动作不是顺承的,虽然主语一致所以一定要逗号隔开,也表示一种强调!

上面的问题,请NN帮我确认下,关于HAVING BEEN的!

作者: amber0919 时间: 2006-5-13 10:24

以下是引用xuedidage在2006-2-19 14:02:00的发言：

You see, the sentence she has lived in England and Canada, and first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers' Workshop.

可那为啥在","后不加个代词呢? 引导一个新的从句.这样更好啊. 不加代词直接and连感觉有动词并列的嫌疑.

作者: kathy8446 时间: 2006-8-5 20:43

以下是引用promising在2006-2-9 20:50:00的发言：

has 的问题已经搞定,表示 an indefinite time in the past.

eg. I have been to England.

？怎么没看到哪个帖子是这么写的？如果现在完成时真能表达这个含义，我到觉得还合理一点。

不过have been确实是用来表示曾经去过某地，但是have lived也可以这样用吗？好像是要延续到现在才行啊

大家都在说是现在住在England和Canada，但是还是觉得很奇怪。先说现在住哪，后面才说1961年曾经住哪，很没有逻辑性啊。而且不是犯了A选项里ETS自己说的oddly presents its infomation in reverse chronological order的错误？

并且，现在同时住在两个国家也很奇怪啊……如果说曾经住过这两个国家，反而还合理一点

作者: amy7777 时间: 2006-10-5 20:23

以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-4-6 5:59:00的发言：

搜索了半个小时的链接, 还是看不明白.

(A) Being a United States citizen since 1988 and born in Calcutta in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee has

(B) Having been a United States citizen since 1988, she was born in Calcutta in 1940; author Bharati Mukherjee

(D) Being born in Calcutta in 1940 and having been a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee (C)

(E) Having been born in Calcutta in 1940 and being a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee

看完了这一题的所有讨论贴，下面两个问题还是不清楚，请大家帮忙看看。

1 答案C里怎么可以用逗号, 而且还是用and连接的, 同一主语.

2 大家都在说是现在住在England和Canada，但是还是觉得很奇怪。先说现在住哪，后面才说1961年曾经住哪，很没有逻辑性啊。而且不是犯了A选项里ETS自己说的oddly presents its infomation in reverse chronological order的错误？

并且，现在同时住在两个国家也很奇怪啊……如果说曾经住过这两个国家，反而还合理一点

NN们来指点一下啊，困惑中。。。。谢谢。

作者: lysluo 时间: 2006-10-6 10:21

对ETS的逻辑不太了解，所以用高中里学的一点知识试着解释一下：

句子补充完整以后应该是：

(Being) Born in Calcutta in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee became a United States citizen in 1988; she has lived in England and Canada, and (she) first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers' Workshop.

(Being) Born in Calcutta in 1940, 在这里做的是伴随状语，类似的还有：

1。Generally speaking, bla... bla...

2。The girl came in, following her parents.

伴随状语可以放在句前或者句后，视句子意思而定，当放在句子前面时being可以省略。being born 省略being是最典型的一个例子。

至于而后面的一半，我觉得本身这句句子就是介绍 Bharati Mukherjee 这个人的，也就是站在现在的角度看她的经历，所以用has也不很奇怪啊。如果我把句子改成：

she has lived in England, Canada and America, and (she) first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers' Workshop.

你会不会觉得这里用has lived更恰当一些呢？前者讲的是经历，后者也是经历，只是一个是持续的过程，而另一个是瞬间的过程，所以用了不同的时态。

以上是我的理解，请牛牛指正。：）

作者: amy7777 时间: 2006-10-6 13:41

谢谢lysluo，其它的你所讲的我都同意，

下面这个存疑，我再好好想想。

伴随状语可以放在句前或者句后，视句子意思而定，当放在句子前面时being可以省略。being born 省略being是最典型的一个例子。

作者: ana9 时间: 2006-10-23 05:32
agree with "lysluo"

作者: denne 时间: 2006-12-23 21:48

gmat中介词（after，before）表被动必须用being done; with + NOUN + being + NOUN COMPLEMENT(with increased career prospects being the most important for many MBA applicants) 其余being都是多余的.

以上是在前面某个讨论中看到的.

作者: huangyh03 时间: 2007-9-7 06:25

我说说那个“，”我的理解，and canada, and first came to...主语一致，后一个主语省略，通常这里的逗号要省去，这里加逗号是不是强调一下后一个分句与前面的关系，避免和and canada混淆，没有什么特别的意义。

作者: dormousedzc 时间: 2007-12-6 03:02

晕了,XDF说现在时态和过去时态不能在同一句话中.

这里就出现了现在完成时和过去时的联用,而且从所谓的时间顺序来看还是现在完成时在前,过去时在后

我彻底无语了...

作者: lulu_odin 时间: 2008-5-5 20:37

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