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249. Bluegrass musician Bill Monroe, whose repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style were influential on generations of bluegrass artists. was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia. whose music differed significantly from his own.
(A) were influential on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from
(B) influenced generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from
(C) was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, was also inspirational to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was different significantly in comparison to
(D) was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, who included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, the music of whom differed significantly when compared to (B)
(E) were an influence on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was significantly different from that of
og中解释， E中的 that 没有先行词, 可我觉得它指代music非常顺口. 况且这个代词是不能省的.
我个人有一个解释, 但不是很确定. 先听听大家的看法, 以免你们先入为主.
b is answer ,i think
that of我觉得可以省的 ,his own 就可以表示了.
还有 influenced 比were an influence
况且OG说的很明确: In E, the construction different from that of his own is confusing since there is no referent for that: different from his own makes a logical comparison.
错在that没有指代对象, 而不是重复.
怎么就是没人回? 还是我自己解释一下, 大家看看对不对.
从单纯的语法角度讲, music---his own已经构成平行. 如果是music---him那就不对了. his own本身就是一个宾语的指代. 可麻烦在OG对that的解释是"no referent", 而不是为了简洁而省略, 让人颇费脑筋.
我认为his own是his own music的省略, 而且是一个习惯用法, 一般不加that. If so, 加了that就牵扯出一个新的所有格, 若将其排序就是: Bill Monroe's own music's that (对不起 让大家看这个极其不符合语法规范的结构). 这样一来, that就没有指代对象.
大家想想, 给我点看法.
怎么就是没人回? 还是我自己解释一下, 大家看看对不对.
从单纯的语法角度讲, music---his own已经构成平行. 如果是music---him那就不对了. his own本身就是一个宾语的指代. 可麻烦在OG对that的解释是"no referent", 而不是为了简洁而省略, 让人颇费脑筋.
我认为his own是his own music的省略, 而且是一个习惯用法, 一般不加that. If so, 加了that就牵扯出一个新的所有格, 若将其排序就是: Bill Monroe's own music's that (对不起 让大家看这个极其不符合语法规范的结构). 这样一来, that就没有指代对象.
大家想想, 给我点看法.
B中的whose没有什么疑问的话应该是指代前面的EP&JG，但是E里面由于whose引导的从句中谓语动词是was，明显不可以再指代这两个人，因此whose music中的music本身就已然指代不清楚了，后面的that再指代前面的music？！
本人认为肯定不可以说他是clear的。
B中的whose没有什么疑问的话应该是指代前面的EP&JG，但是E里面由于whose引导的从句中谓语动词是was，明显不可以再指代这两个人，因此whose music中的music本身就已然指代不清楚了，后面的that再指代前面的music？！
本人认为肯定不可以说他是clear的。
这个观点........(我不敢用祈使句 )
谓语动词的单复数不应该由所有格决定, 而是中心词决定. 如: the information of A and B is.....所以即便句子里用了was, whose依然可以指代两个人. 于是问题就归结于music这个词是不是个不可数名词.
from Longman:
mu‧sic [uncountable]
是我自己昏了头了，惭愧惭愧！
那再给出一种解释吧，MM看的够细！
这里面如果象E那样变成That of his music的话，of和his是双重所有格，应该是GMAT里面基本不用的表达，所以不好。
仔细看了一下OG，MM注意冒号后面的那句，感觉上是因为different from his own已经表达全了对比，所以这个that的插入才显得不知道指代什么。
如果没有东西可以指代，或者有东西指代也是错误的，那么就可以说： “错在that没有指代对象”。
从句中的that除了就近指代music没有其它的东西了，但是: music(that) of Bill或者 music(that) of his own music都不对；
somebody 'music is better，并且与whose music平行。
B中的whose没有什么疑问的话应该是指代前面的EP&JG，但是E里面由于whose引导的从句中谓语动词是was，明显不可以再指代这两个人，因此whose music中的music本身就已然指代不清楚了，后面的that再指代前面的music？！
本人认为肯定不可以说他是clear的。
根据句意看，是指代EP & JG，但是也可以修饰JG，这样这个WHOSE不会引起指代不清吗？
糊涂了谢谢薰衣紫草细腻的思维, dreamerps 答案就在楼上啊! 很清楚了 (感激中)
浅龙勿近---我觉得是modify E &J , 根据 OG１１３．．．ｏｐｅｎ ｔｏ ｄｉｓｃｕｓｓｉｏｎ
whose music ~ 不管whose 是誰 這裡的中心詞應該是music 吧
既然his own 已經代表了 它的音樂 前面有that of ~照理說應該是對於his own 作進一步的修飾
左看又看 好像只有music 符合that 條件
但放進句中並不合句意吧 "他音樂的音樂"?
所以才會說that 無(合理的)指代對象
請討論
我感觉本题中答案B中的whose很confusing啊，大家认为有3中可能性
(1)whose 指代musicians(原因：including只是插入语成份）
(2)whose指代EP and JG(原因：就近指代）
(3)whose指代JG(原因：就近指代）
这个问题我想了很久，请各位指教，谢谢！
我感觉本题中答案B中的whose很confusing啊，大家认为有3中可能性
(1)whose 指代musicians(原因：including只是插入语成份）
(2)whose指代EP and JG(原因：就近指代）
(3)whose指代JG(原因：就近指代）
这个问题我想了很久，请各位指教，谢谢！
确实由歧义,如何判断我认为关键是在于对including用法的理解.
如果认为including...是插入语,则应该是1).修饰musicians,
如果是2,3的话,including就不是插入语了,因为如果是插入语,including....前后逗号外的东东应该是一句话,是平级的.including拿走后对句子不产生任何影响
但如果按照2,3理解显然including 分词表示伴随,非限定修饰类似与从句所以级别上次了一级,如果按照2,3理解,whose修饰including中的ep and jg,则whose从句变成了比including更次一级的修饰语.
但是这有涉及一个语法现象就是分词including表伴随是不是就应该结束该句话了.也就是主,谓,宾,including...这样的结构.
后面不能再加修饰成分了.
所以我认为including只能理解为插入语,而whose只能修饰musicians,没有2,3的歧义
不知道我说明白了没有.没明白再问啊共同讨论啊.
我还是觉得that可以指代music.因为．．．of his own这种结构是可以的．并没有wordy．摘自Ｏxford：
Ｈe'd like a car of his own.
Children need toys of their own.
所以，对于Ｅ的解释还是疑惑！～～～大家指点！～～！
我还是觉得that可以指代music.因为．．．of his own这种结构是可以的．并没有wordy．摘自Ｏxford：
Ｈe'd like a car of his own.
Children need toys of their own.
所以，对于Ｅ的解释还是疑惑！～～～大家指点！～～！
您舉的第一個例子跟這題的表答方式不一樣! He'd like a car of his own. 這句中, his own=his own cars~~~表示他擁有很多台車! 是在強調很多台車的其中一台! 第二個例子我覺得redundant! 但說不上來~看有沒有nn能解答
帮忙顶一下, whoever has some definite answer, please help.
..., whose musice was significantly different from that of ...
1. whose 修饰谁, musicians or EP&JG? 似乎都有理. Any grammar rules can be applied here to straighten it out?
2. why "that" can NOT refer to "music"? There are sentences, such as "please deal with the problems of your own.", listed in some dictionaries.
"whose music..." modifies "many musicians", since "including..."作擦入语
It seems that "whose music" is more parallel to "his own(music)" than to "that of his own".
My 2c.
这个that不是指代music，而是Bill Monroe的什么东西，但是句子里又没有说，即没有指代对象。that of his own，一定要在Bill Monroe的东东里找到指代对象
既然有了HIS OWN 就不用再加THAT OF 。whose music和his own的比较
that of如果指music~那his是指啥呢?? his own其實就是指his (music) own呀~如果又加了that of不是變成that of his music own~~語意重複了
这里面如果象E那样变成That of his music的话，of和his是双重所有格，应该是GMAT里面基本不用的表达，所以不好。
仔细看了一下OG，MM注意冒号后面的那句，感觉上是因为different from his own已经表达全了对比，所以这个that的插入才显得不知道指代什么。
如果没有东西可以指代，或者有东西指代也是错误的，那么就可以说： “错在that没有指代对象”。
从句中的that除了就近指代music没有其它的东西了，但是: music(that) of Bill或者 music(that) of his own music都不对；
somebody 'music is better，并且与whose music平行。
whose music ~ 不管whose 是誰 這裡的中心詞應該是music 吧
既然his own 已經代表了 它的音樂 前面有that of ~照理說應該是對於his own 作進一步的修飾
左看又看 好像只有music 符合that 條件
但放進句中並不合句意吧 "他音樂的音樂"?
所以才會說that 無(合理的)指代對象
"whose music..." modifies "many musicians", since "including..."作擦入语
It seems that "whose music" is more parallel to "his own(music)" than to "that of his own".
怎么就是没人回? 还是我自己解释一下, 大家看看对不对.
从单纯的语法角度讲, music---his own已经构成平行. 如果是music---him那就不对了. his own本身就是一个宾语的指代. 可麻烦在OG对that的解释是"no referent", 而不是为了简洁而省略, 让人颇费脑筋.
我认为his own是his own music的省略, 而且是一个习惯用法, 一般不加that. If so, 加了that就牵扯出一个新的所有格, 若将其排序就是: Bill Monroe's own music's that (对不起 让大家看这个极其不符合语法规范的结构). 这样一来, that就没有指代对象.
大家想想, 给我点看法.
我感觉本题中答案B中的whose很confusing啊，大家认为有3中可能性
(1)whose 指代musicians(原因：including只是插入语成份）
(2)whose指代EP and JG(原因：就近指代）
(3)whose指代JG(原因：就近指代）
这个问题我想了很久，请各位指教，谢谢！
确实由歧义,如何判断我认为关键是在于对including用法的理解.
如果认为including...是插入语,则应该是1).修饰musicians,
如果是2,3的话,including就不是插入语了,因为如果是插入语,including....前后逗号外的东东应该是一句话,是平级的.including拿走后对句子不产生任何影响
但如果按照2,3理解显然including 分词表示伴随,非限定修饰类似与从句所以级别上次了一级,如果按照2,3理解,whose修饰including中的ep and jg,则whose从句变成了比including更次一级的修饰语.
但是这有涉及一个语法现象就是分词including表伴随是不是就应该结束该句话了.也就是主,谓,宾,including...这样的结构.
后面不能再加修饰成分了.
所以我认为including只能理解为插入语,而whose只能修饰musicians,没有2,3的歧义
不知道我说明白了没有.没明白再问啊共同讨论啊.
这一题太难了，把所有我认为对的意见放在一起，再好好看看。看来时刻得注意平行和还that 指代的问题啊。
大家再讨论讨论这个that 的指代问题吗，为什么OG说that 没有指代对象呢？？？？
大家来讨论一下这个问题啊，很多题都有这个that 指代呢，是我对这个题想得不对吗？
顶一下。等解答。谢谢。
还是不清楚whose music.... 是修饰musicians, 还是 EP and JG, 还是 JG.
排除AE的另一个方法:
** be influential to.../.. has influence on /sb influence sb/ sb is influcening sb用法都是对的。
但是influential on是错的。
因为文中提到了Bill Monroe的repertory , vocal style还有music,所以that指代不明确.
如果没提到repertory , vocal style,后面的that 可省略,也可以保留.包括own都可以省掉.
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