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作者: jingliu097    时间: 2015-6-1 09:09
标题: 求助
Could anyone help me?
Is there any difference between "including" and "which include(s)"? Or GMAC prefer which one?

作者: jingliu097    时间: 2015-6-1 09:12
Q30P-17
The new image of Stone Age people as systematic hunters of large animals, rather than merely scavenging for meat, have emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, including three wooden spears that archaeologists believe to be about 400,000 years old.
A. merely scavenging for meat, have emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, including
B. as merely scavenging for meat, have emerged from examining tools found in Germany, which include
C. as mere meat scavengers, has emerged from examining tools found in Germany that includes

D. mere scavengers of meat, has emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, which includes
E. mere scavengers of meat, has emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, including

Look at D&E, although I have known that D is wrong, if "includes"  changed into "include", how the answer would be?
作者: alzn2765    时间: 2015-6-1 12:59
如果换成include就没有语法错误了,与E无异
作者: ukyo2003    时间: 2015-6-4 10:40
我的看法不同,针对D分析一下。

The new image of Stone Age people as systematic hunters of large animals, rather than merely scavenging for meat, have emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, including three wooden spears that archaeologists believe to be about 400,000 years old.
A. merely scavenging for meat, have emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, including
B. as merely scavenging for meat, have emerged from examining tools found in Germany, which include
C. as mere meat scavengers, has emerged from examining tools found in Germany that includes (这是OA吗?)
D. mere scavengers of meat, has emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, which includes (rather than mere scavengers of meat带来歧义,可以和the new image平行;which优先修饰Germany带来歧义)
E. mere scavengers of meat, has emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, including

作者: jingliu097    时间: 2015-6-4 11:45
ukyo2003 发表于 2015-6-4 10:40
我的看法不同,针对D分析一下。

The new image of Stone Age people as systematic hunters of large anim ...

Well, the answer in GWD3-Q41 is E. Thanks anyway!
You remind me of the problem about the  "as". Is "as" wordy or for something else?
作者: ukyo2003    时间: 2015-6-4 12:43
jingliu097 发表于 2015-6-4 11:45
Well, the answer in GWD3-Q41 is E. Thanks anyway!
You remind me of the problem about the  "as". Is ...

hi JingLiu,
Thank you for the correction, I made mistake in my earlier reply. So I need to correct it now.

Searching from ManhattanPrep Forum:
"(c)
[size=14.0084037780762px]The new image of Stone Age people as systematic hunters of large animals, rather than as mere meat scavengers, has...
this parallelism is [size=14.0084037780762px]acceptable, but there are two undesirable things:
* "hunters OF large animals" isn't truly parallel to "meat scavengers"
* "meat scavengers" is awkward / unclear (you probably won't know this unless you're a native speaker of english and/or a writer)

(d)(e)
[size=14.0084037780762px]The new image of Stone Age people as systematic hunters of large animals, rather than mere scavengers of meat, has...
this is better parallelism (notice that "as" is excluded from the first part this time).
* note the EXACT parallelism between "hunters OF large animals" and "scavengers OF meat"."

My understanding:
* "hunters OF large animals" isn't truly parallel to "meat scavengers" [Eric: yes this makes sense, better use structure of "noun of noun", original wording says "hunter of some food", then better use "scavengers of some food". But I don't think this is the decision making piont here.]
* "meat scavengers" is awkward / unclear (you probably won't know this unless you're a native speaker of english and/or a writer) [Eric: I'm not native English speaker, so what I can do is to just remember this point]

My mistakes:
1. as is not a decision point. Because it's easy to judge that "hunters of large animals" is contrastign with "scavenging for meat", there would be no confusion to compare "scavenging for meat" with "The new image" in the context.
2. I ignored one mistake in option C: C. as mere meat scavengers, has emerged from examining tools found in Germany that includes,  [Eric: " includes does not agree with plural noun of tools]

Option E is the best answer:
E. mere scavengers of meat, has emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, including [Eric: "scavengers of meat" is better expression than "meat scavengers", "has" agrees with "image", "including" modifies "tools" correctly]

Please le me know if you have more inputs or advise. Thank you.




作者: ukyo2003    时间: 2015-6-4 12:44
Btw, I didn't find this SC in GWD. Would you mind to check whether it is in GWD3?
My GWD3-41 is below problem:
A leading figure in the Scottish enlightenment, Adam Smith’s two major books are to democratic capitalism what Marx’s Das Kapital is to socialism.
作者: jingliu097    时间: 2015-6-4 13:25
ukyo2003 发表于 2015-6-4 12:43
hi JingLiu,
Thank you for the correction, I made mistake in my earlier reply. So I need to correct ...

Thank you so much!
I get it
作者: jingliu097    时间: 2015-6-4 13:28
ukyo2003 发表于 2015-6-4 12:44
Btw, I didn't find this SC in GWD. Would you mind to check whether it is in GWD3?
My GWD3-41 is belo ...

That's in GWD-TN2 and the mark is GWD3-Q41. Also, I have found it in some other place.
作者: ukyo2003    时间: 2015-6-4 22:16
jingliu097 发表于 2015-6-4 13:28
That's in GWD-TN2 and the mark is GWD3-Q41. Also, I have found it in some other place.

Weird, I didn't find it in GWD 2 or 3...




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