bw/usn/wsj 哪个排名最有实际意义？

josiesun · 发表于 2004-4-1 01:18:00

各大排名CRITERIA都不同，对学生来说哪个更有用呢？（就毕业后的就业和长远发展）

gmatgwd · 发表于 2004-4-1 01:24:00

据说是US NEWS.

funnytiger · 发表于 2004-4-1 02:11:00

if you are talking about job placement, BW weighs more on it.

if you want more acedamic achievement, USNEWS is better

you can totally ignore WSJ, they rank Stanford No.30 last year, that pretty much tells the whole story.

josiesun · 发表于 2004-4-1 10:42:00

thanks.

gbrl · 发表于 2004-4-1 13:12:00

josiesun, I believe the short answer to your question is "it all depends".

BW weighs, among other things,    feedbacks from B-schools' customers - the MBA students and the recruiters.

US NEWS does not care about what MBAs think. They    weigh job placement, GMAT and MBA salary    relatively heavily.

WSJ only cares about what recruiters say (GMAT does not mean anything to WSJ). I kind of disagree with what funnytiger said about WSJ. 99% MBAs care about jobs, therefore what recruiters think in my opinion really matters.

Stanford students often appear "arrogant" to recruiters - that's why recruiters rank Stanford 30th in WSJ. Stanford MBAs do not want leave California and they probably think they are the smartest people in the whole world. If you are a recuiter, you probably won't appreciate that kind of mentaility very much either. Plus Stanford does not have a large student pool for recruiters to pick and choose.

Of course, few people would    believe Stanford is really the 30th best B-school in the US (WSJ is NOT saying that either). Stanford is a great school, probably one of the top B-schools in the whole world, but it is NOT necessarily good in each and every aspect.

Study the criteria these rankings use and you would perhaps agree with my short answer in the beginning.

lukapurple · 发表于 2004-4-1 13:23:00

I do not think ranking is the critical factor when choosing a school. If you ask an American, he may tell you there are only 10 Ivey League schools in their mind, which never varies despite different rankings by different sources each year.

dollaryen · 发表于 2004-4-12 11:02:00

在Placement方面，个人认为WSJ更准确一点。

Shuzhen · 发表于 2004-4-12 11:44:00

有人攻击US News，说这个排名第一次排的时候居然把Princeton排进去了，但是该校其实并没有商学院，结果闹了个笑话。

但是这毕竟是老皇历了，大多数人还是觉得这个排名是非常有意义的，十分有参考价值。是最有名的排名之一。

BW的排名之特点是重视学生的视角，然而大多数学生都夸耀自己的学校，不说学校真正的弱点。诚实的学生实事求是，结果反而影响了自己学校的排名。由于BW的排名比较倾向于把Kellogg推向巅峰，哈佛与沃顿已经于4月6日联名致电表示从今往后不参加任何排名（有人认为BW排名发生在秋天，USNEWS排名在春天，所以BW是受了USNEWS的连累，是USNEWS把哈佛沃顿惹烦了，BW背黑锅，窃以为这种说法没有太多证据）。

而WSJ由于把哈佛和斯坦福排的太往后了，虽然勇气可嘉，独树一帜，但是招致了很多攻击。

大家见仁见智吧。

judy_zhaoli · 发表于 2004-4-12 11:53:00

以下是引用lukapurple在2004-4-1 13:23:00的发言：
I do not think ranking is the critical factor when choosing a school. If you ask an American, he may tell you there are only 10 Ivey League schools in their mind, which never varies despite different rankings by different sources each year.

偶在美国东北部的朋友们也是这么说。所以要么名校或专业，要么地理位置，国际学生还要考虑的就是自己的英语实力和运气。

晏小山 · 发表于 2004-4-13 13:18:00

学术环境还是要看USNEWS的，WSJ的排名是根据招聘人员对所招学生的评价。

去年9月WSJ排我现在的商学院是全球44，说是从俺们这里毕业的学生口碑好，学院为此在门口拉起一大横幅有半年之久，但中国学生们都没太在意。上周出来的USNEWS才是我们看重的，发现排在第80，我认为这才是这家商学院的真实位置。

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