OG_Verbal SC 69 看了OG解释了，可还是搞不明白，SOS~~

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mamaliang 发表于 2013-3-4 00:30
今日正好做到这题，看到baby姐贴出来Ron大神在manhattan论坛的分析，讲的真好啊。我就试着总结了一下，把ba ...

真是个好帖子，分析的很透彻
我是这么理解划线的部分的
on a scale, (w/ more than xx structures), [of up to 600 rooms each], connected by xx.
[]是nonessential，纯粹来捣蛋的，先不看.
Comma+w/+noun修饰前面整个句子, connected by修饰structures

wandering_wind

所以这个of up to 600 rooms each 是应该修饰structure而不是scale吧。。。实在不是很理解，还去看了一下wiki
Immense complexes known as "Great Houses" embodied worship at Chaco. As architectural forms evolved and centuries passed, the houses kept several core traits. Most apparent is their sheer bulk; complexes averaged more than 200 rooms each, and some enclosed up to 700 rooms. 感觉句中的structures就是wiki里说的complexes

D07210721

choice a is a run-on - it tries to have two main verbs without using any sort of subordinating element. if you take out modifiers, adjectives, etc., you're left with the following: the settlements were built with structures were connected. that's bad.

choice b is correct: it uses a nonessential modifier set off by commas ('of up to 600 rooms each'), which, if eliminated, yields the intact and legitimate sentence ...carefully engineered structures, connected by... (with another nonessential modifier).

choice c:
- 'scale of' doesn't make sense
- you can't say 'each that had...' (can't follow 'each' with a relative pronoun - if you're going to use a relative pronoun, it has to come directly after the thing it's trying to modify)
- no justification for using the past perfect ('had been') - that verb, if there's a verb there at all, should be in the simple past (the same tense as everything else in the sentence, because everything described in the sentence is contemporaneous)
- it doesn't make sense to use 'each' AFTER the comma, because it's not true that each structure was connected with a road system. instead, the road system connected all of the structures with each other, which is nowhere close to the same thing. (having 'each' BEFORE the comma makes sense, because it's actually true that each of the structures comprised up to 600 rooms.)
analogy:
the USA comprises 50 states, each of which is united by a federal government --> wrong (the implication is that each state has its own federal government)
the USA comprises 50 states, all of which are united by a federal government --> correct
the USA comprises 50 states, (all) united by a federal government --> correct, whether you have 'all' or not

choice d:
- 'scale of' doesn't make sense
- the use of AND sets up ostensible parallelism, but the two structures given aren't parallel (one starts with of and the other with with)

choice e is also a run-on sentence (you'll see this if you reduce it to its 'skeleton', a la choice a)

justingz

我做这题的时候是先排除CE的，had been不合理；
D的and with each长得非常之怪异，也排除了。
of up to在捣乱，没见过几个修饰语一起摆在句尾的大阵仗。。。加上当时是在掐时间做题，
最后在AB选项中徘徊，选了A，当时的想法是先忽略of up to，把were联系到前面with...structures后面，其实是非常勉强的。。。

我要喝可乐

teddybearj4 发表于 2012-7-31 00:07
现在再看这道题发现用语意解释更清晰：原句是想表达：A地方的住宅都建设的很壮观，每个住宅都有高达600间房 ...

Mark一下！               

桃乐酱

感谢分享！               

恒河猴

iambigchan 发表于 2012-11-26 00:04
Great point! 通过scale of的意思(e.g. on a scale of 1-10)直接排除C/D/E就好办了。我觉得做这题的时候 ...

借楼挖坟，抱歉

今天做到这道题，看了看论坛前辈们的帖子，参考了贴出来的Ron的解释，确实前辈们的理解和Ron的解释其实是南辕北辙的。

我思考了下，其实这里with前面comma只是增加了题目的难度，其本质含义还是和Ron的关于没有comma版本的解释是相同的。(增补：意思是说comma with与with都可以修饰preceding noun)

"of up to 600 rooms each"才是插入语，而修饰的内容是structures，整句话是在讲：settlements有75个structures,每个structure有600个rooms，structures被road连接。


增补：发现写的好像不是很明白，补充说明一下。

答案选B。

A，E两项都是“comma splice”，因为句中有两个谓语结构，却没有合适的conjunction，比如and；
C项，each后不能跟relative clause，each在这里是pronoun，这个句子的each结构是意图以absolute phrase来对主句进行修饰，但是that引导的relative clause用错了；
D项，and引入了平行结构，但很明显其并列内容并不平行。

说一下B项：
with引导的介词结构是在修饰a spetacular scale; of引导的介词结构作为插入语，修饰structures；connected引导的分词结构修饰structures

xx50824

恒河猴 发表于 2016-11-29 12:07
借楼挖坟，抱歉

今天做到这道题，看了看论坛前辈们的帖子，参考了贴出来的Ron的解释，确实前辈们的理解和 ...

想請問下對於D選項不平行的判斷,是具體怎麼判斷的呢?
我是知道句意上來講,D選項句意完全不平行,但表面的看, and with each 似乎是可以跟 on a spectacular scale 用介係詞平行. 快速判斷下似乎容易出錯
想請問這種表面平行,實戰下還是要走句意為主,是嗎?

DaYangDa

感谢分享！               

LUOWEI_

mamaliang 发表于 2013-3-4 00:30
今日正好做到这题，看到baby姐贴出来Ron大神在manhattan论坛的分析，讲的真好啊。我就试着总结了一下，把ba ...

抱歉过了这么久又把这道题翻出来，但是一直没有找到合适的解释！求NN帮助
为什么C中的 each that had been不能够作为 同位语修饰前面的 room/structure呢？ 如果忽略其本身的指代不清的话。 ron说的要贴近修饰那一点不是很懂。 求指教