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when compared to 是不是必错的啊?

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发表于 2012-7-28 15:46:29 | 显示全部楼层
In the United States, while the number of foreign-born residents and their children is higher than ever, the percentage of the population they represent is not; in 1910 this group made up 35 percent of the population when compared to 20 percent in 2000.        

(A) population when compared to 20 percent in 2000
(B) population as compared to 2000, when it was 20 percent
(C) population, comparing it with 20 percent in 2000
(D) population, unlike 2000, with 20 percent
(E) population, compared with 20 percent in 2000
选E
能用compared with 就不要用when compared to,有点罗嗦,而且会有歧义,理解为“当与…比较时,才…”,比如AE比较,A就会有歧义:似乎只有当与2000年时的20%比较时,1910年this group才made up 35% of the population.
同样的,as compared with(or to)也会有类似歧义,但稍微好些(as也有“当…”之意)。as compared to 不要分成as... compared to。much ... as compared to意为“与...相比
但in comparison with(or to)不会有歧义,可以用(in 没有“当…”之意)。
compared to 可以是“比作”,也可以是“比较于…;与…相比”:
1、A zebra can be COMPARED TO a horse in many ways. 与…相比
2、Teachers are often compared to burning candles. // Life is compared to voyage. 比作…
发表于 2012-8-14 23:02:24 | 显示全部楼层
LS的解读好精准!赞一个~~
发表于 2016-4-8 15:11:36 | 显示全部楼层
11L讲的不错!!!!
发表于 2017-5-27 22:43:01 | 显示全部楼层
compared to 和 compared with 一样——ron
发表于 2017-5-28 17:08:23 | 显示全部楼层
请问一下compare如果用作主动,那主语一定是人吗,还是一般不考主动的情况
发表于 2017-9-15 08:46:00 | 显示全部楼层
半半学霸 发表于 2017-5-28 17:08
请问一下compare如果用作主动,那主语一定是人吗,还是一般不考主动的情况

貌似不经常考主动
manhattan例句: A zebra can be compared to a horse in many ways.
Compared with a horse, however, a zebra is very hard to tame.
发表于 2017-9-15 17:31:30 | 显示全部楼层
when compared to的設計並不是考察不是必對必錯的慣用語,而是考察語意表達是否單一清晰(相對考點中的「歧義與否」)。

when compared to 的問題在於when表同一時間,而compared to表比較。到底這個修飾語的重點是想要強調時間,還是要強調比較?於是語意就不明確,產生歧義。

若兩個句子文法正確,語意皆合理,則意思明確無歧義的選項較優。

這也就是樓主看到大部分when compared to 不在正確選項的原因。樓主可以去檢查那些題目,正確選項都是在文法正確語意合理的前提下,避開when compared to這種歧義用法,使意思更清楚。

但樓主看下面這一題,正確答案A使用了when compared to 的用法,而沒使用的D/E為什麼不是正確選項?

November is traditionally the strongest month for sales of light trucks, but sales this past November, even when compared with sales in previous Novembers, accounted for a remarkably large share of total vehicle sales.

A but sales this past November, even when compared with sales in previous Novembers,
D so that compared with previous Novembers, sales of light trucks this past November (月份跟銷售額無可比性,語意不合理)
E so that this past November’s sales, even compared with previous Novembers’ sales, (用so that錯誤地表達兩句關係,兩句應該是要表轉折而不是目的/手段,所以是語意不合理)

所以從這個題目樓主可以看出來,考點的判斷是有優先層級的,不是所有考點都是可以看到秒刪的。文法跟語意合理性是絕對錯誤,而歧義/改變語意/寫法冗長精簡 是相對錯誤。

這邊我有拿另一題作解釋「考點優先性」的概念,樓主可以參考:
http://dustingmat.blogspot.tw/2016/07/dustin-scsc.html

Dustin
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