OG 16 解释中的even if

奋斗的金融mmiao

楼主看OG解释真的感觉很痛苦，但有些解释很好，不得不说那个even if把我绕晕了，很多选项都用有关无关排除，但是OG很多都用even if，问题来了，用了even if我觉得并不能说明什么啊，还请大神点播。例如：OG 41 题的D选项。

Although there is no record of poet Edmund Spenser’s parentage, we do know that

as a youth Spenser attended the Merchant Tailors’ School in London for a period

between 1560 and 1570. Records from this time indicate that the Merchant Tailors’

Guild then had only three members named Spenser: Robert Spenser, listed as a

gentleman; Nicholas Spenser, elected the Guild’s Warden in 1568; and John

Spenser, listed as a “journeyman cloth-maker.” Of these, the last was likely the

least affluent of the three—and most likely Edmund’s father, since school

accounting records list Edmund as a scholar who attended the school at a reduced

fee.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Anybody in sixteenth-century London who made clothing professionally

would have had to be a member of the Merchant Tailors’ Guild.

(B) The fact that Edmund Spenser attended the Merchant Tailors’ School

did not necessarily mean that he planned to become a tailor.

(C) No member of the Guild could become Guild warden in sixteenthcentury

London unless he was a gentleman.

(D) Most of those whose fathers were members of the Merchant Tailors’

Guild were students at the Merchant Tailors’ School.

(E) The Merchant Tailors’ School did not reduce its fees for the children of

the more affluent Guild members.

解释是Even if most children of fathers in the guild did not attend the school, all the children who did attend the school might have had fathers in the guild.

这个选项我排出的理由就是即使D选项成立也不能说明文中的父子关系，根本没有向OG的解释想这么多，这个OG 的解释到底再讲些什么，楼主想了30分钟都没有搞清楚里面的逻辑。

求人解答啊！

奋斗的金融mmiao

楼主下午做题的时候突然有些感觉。
even if 一般用于assumption问题，就是所谓的negation题里用。
取非削弱为正确答案，而取非后原来的结论仍然成立或者没有影响的则为错。
再求大神指点！！！
就像这道题，即使那些父亲in the guiild 的大多数孩子没有去上学（取非），仍然不能说明他们不是父子。没有削弱，所以错误。

奋斗的金融mmiao

但是仍然感觉有很多题不用这么麻烦，可能assumption题由于可以引入新信息，所以不能用有关无关开解决？？？

alzn2765

看OG的解释你估计永远不知道CR题应该怎么做。OG的首要原则就是－一定不能告诉考生有用的信息。

这题是明显的“补桥”题

奋斗的金融mmiao

alzn2765 发表于 2016-4-30 15:04
看OG的解释你估计永远不知道CR题应该怎么做。OG的首要原则就是－一定不能告诉考生有用的信息。

这题是明显 ...

是啊，我在这个之前看过bible，并做了prep08，觉得差不多有一套自己的方法，这几天刷OG觉得自己的思路全部被打乱了，错误率也变高，是不是还是按着自己的方法走。但是很多人都说看OG能够知道出题的思路。。。。。。该怎么提高啊

锕儍

该题逻辑的潜在要素是，孩子在该学校的父亲一定在对应公会（所以推出在公会的人是在学校孩子的父亲，而不是其他没在公会的人），而D选项的意思是父亲在公会的孩子大部分都在学校，相当于反过来了
og解释里的even if也是这个意思，即使在公会的父亲的孩子大部分没有在这个学校，也不影响这个学校的学生父亲一定是公会成员。其实assumption都可以这么解题，而og就是这么简单粗暴，吼吼

oswan

锕儍 发表于 2016-4-30 21:01
该题逻辑的潜在要素是，孩子在该学校的父亲一定在对应公会（所以推出在公会的人是在学校孩子的父亲，而不是 ...

说得很好！在或不在，the argument works either way. 同理对于B，要或不要，the argument works either way

大大草莓

感谢分享！               

猪小王

D是一个很巧妙地陷阱。这个argument不止一个assumption。其中一个是the children at the school generally had fathers in the Merchant Tailor's Guild. 但是D给出的assumption是正好相反。Fathers in the guild had children at the school. father在工会，儿子可能在子弟学校，也肯能不在。所以，是偷换了概念。

直播上700

猪小王 发表于 2017-5-3 10:55
D是一个很巧妙地陷阱。这个argument不止一个assumption。其中一个是the children at the school generally  ...

D答案是偷换逻辑
我这里理解有点丢失
我理解的逻辑链是  MT不给富裕的人减学费-->得到奖学金（减学费的）都是不富裕的-->John得了奖学金-->John是那个不富裕的人     到这里为什么 穷人就是他爹呢？   题干里the last was likely the least affluent of the three--and most likely E's father是看作判断条件吗？