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[咨询答疑] 现在申请读博士的都大约是什么年龄

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 楼主| 发表于 2016-3-17 00:31:19 | 显示全部楼层
已经这么多人投票了!感谢大家的分享和支持!看来大部分的人还是好年轻的   
发表于 2016-3-18 00:44:45 | 显示全部楼层

你有50吗?去做自己想做的事情吧,人生不要留遗憾,无论你多大。      
发表于 2016-3-18 01:30:28 | 显示全部楼层
想起一道GMAT的逻辑题。

Scientists typically do their most creative work before the age of forty. It is commonly thought that this happens because aging by itself brings about a loss of creative capacity. However, studies show that of scientists who produce highly creative work beyond the age of forty, a disproportionately large number entered their field at an older age than is usual. Since by the age of forty the large majority of scientists have been working in their field for at least fifteen years, the studies’ finding strongly suggests that the real reason why scientists over forty rarely produce highly creative work is not that they have aged but rather that scientists over forty have generally spent too long in their field.
发表于 2016-3-18 01:33:31 | 显示全部楼层
jennyli2014 发表于 2016-3-18 00:44
你有50吗?去做自己想做的事情吧,人生不要留遗憾,无论你多大。

I was the oldest when I first responded to the poll. There have been a couple of guys older since then.
If everything goes well, I will hopefully get my tenure by 50.
发表于 2016-3-18 01:36:37 | 显示全部楼层
yxlrei 发表于 2016-3-18 01:30
想起一道GMAT的逻辑题。

Scientists typically do their most creative work before the age of forty. It ...

I agree.

Creativity is like a mine, which is exhausted after a number of years of exploration.  
发表于 2016-3-18 08:09:59 | 显示全部楼层
jennyli2014 发表于 2016-3-18 00:44
你有50吗?去做自己想做的事情吧,人生不要留遗憾,无论你多大。

非常喜欢你的这句回复
发表于 2016-3-19 00:41:20 | 显示全部楼层
PHDream16 发表于 2016-3-18 01:36
I agree.

Creativity is like a mine, which is exhausted after a number of years of exploration.   ...

I do not agree because those who started researching before 40 might have been exhausted after 40 while those who have never tried researching might have great potential as a novel and creative thinker in a new area. Remember Benjamin Banneker taught himself astronomy and advanced mathematics and, in 1773(42 years old) he began to devote serious attention to both subjects.Why does age matter? Don't let the stereotypical thinking limit your creativeness and ambition.
发表于 2016-3-19 00:41:29 | 显示全部楼层

看一下!               
发表于 2016-3-21 08:38:10 | 显示全部楼层
jennyli2014 发表于 2016-3-19 00:41
I do not agree because those who started researching before 40 might have been exhaust ...

年龄是否关键?

我想这并不是一个简单的是与否的问题,需要结合具体的情况来分析

1. 科研本身vs.科研作为职业

就科研本身这件事情来看,年龄和创造力的关系我没有看过文献,不敢做出论断
正面的例子肯定有一大把,反面的例子肯定也“发生”过很多
不过我推测反面的例子在科研界的历史上很难留下痕迹
因为人们更可能记住并歌颂大龄转行获得成功的案例,而大龄转行做科研失败的例子并无任何谈资

然而,对于大多数人而言,科研是一个职业,一份工作
既然是一份工作,那么不能不考虑科研能力之外的一系列现实问题
比如,30多岁放弃现有的工作,选择收入更低的PhD program读五到六年,是否会增加家庭妻儿等的经济压力
比如,看到同龄人都事业开始起步,而自己前途未卜时的焦躁情绪
比如,上market时,年龄对招聘过程中明面上以及暗地里的各种潜在影响
把这些问题全面考虑一下,肯定没有错误

2. 为了个人兴趣而选择科研这个职业vs.因为现有工作不顺心而选择科研这个职业

如果是像BellWetherT和PHDream16这种对科研热爱,有所了解,并且成功拿到offer的同行
我肯定是百分之二百的鼓励和支持
我相信他们肯定是认真考虑过以上问题后仍然因为自己对科研的热爱,并结合自身情况而做出的决定
我也相信他们的执着肯定会有回报

但对于lz这个个案,从其所描述的读PhD动机以及学术背景来看,我推断lz可能对于科研以及PhD program并不了解
考虑到lz的问题并不是已经拿到offer来决定要不要去读,而是在考虑要不要准备进行申请
再考虑lz的年龄,我才会说并不建议,因为一旦选择错误,成本实在太高





发表于 2016-3-21 22:36:29 | 显示全部楼层
LRM.  in my cohort, the average age is about 30. all have work experiences. age is never a problem for admission and placement.  it is your choice only. it only depends on whether you want to replace your life in academic.
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