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发表于 2005-10-21 06:12:00 | 只看该作者

geographicly, in different country, different company,


personally, in differnet profession, different income level, different role people played, different sex


so  non-monetary highly-publicized awards maybe not so efficiently for different people. even is may be useful in some circumstance,  for managers , it is hard to make choice that can be more motive to their emploees . and the cost-and-effect system is hard to mesure.


obviously, money is still the most important factors


in sum.....

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发表于 2006-9-20 01:40:00 | 只看该作者

我觉得目的在于反驳这个论点的错误在哪里,而不是讨论money or non-monetery is the best way.....

我的提纲:原题意思是:雇主激励员工的最好方式不是通过提高工资或者增加奖金,而是通过非物质公开奖励那些表现突出者(如每月最佳员工,特殊的停车位,或者来自管理层的信,等等)

1、其中最重要的一个假设是员工认为非物质的公开表彰比涨工资更重要。但这个假设是缺乏条件的,要结合大多数员工的生活状况和素质来考虑。例如,举例Fortune500和小公司对比,主要是arguer也没有举出足够的事实来说明这种情况,所以这个假设有明显的fallacy.

2、即使假设是正确的,arguer所列数的几种激励方式的结果也可能有明显的不同,不能一概而论他们都好于增加工资或者奖金。举例......

3、另一个逻辑错误:A和B并不是互斥的关系,并不存在只能用最好的方式来激励员工的情况。还有很多种其他方式来激励员工,比如把解决员工两地分居问题,为员工提供更多参与社会活动或锻炼的机会,以及家庭活动日等等。现在,很多专家认为,只有把诸多方法结合起来才能起到最好的激励效果。所以,这种最好的单一激励方式在事实上是不成立的。

综上所述,由于各种实际情况的不同,不能简单的说B不一定是比A更好的激励办法,实际上还有很多激励方法也许能产生比B和A更好的激励效果。究竟采用什么样的激励更有效,应该更多地分析企业以及员工的实际情况之后再做决定。

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发表于 2008-3-12 21:57:00 | 只看该作者

只是抬杠 供十楼参考

以下是引用zf7615在2005-8-16 5:35:00的发言:

non-monetary is effective, but not necessary better than money in all scenarios. which one is better depends on the actual situation. In fact, most of company apply a combinition of both awards.

1. non-moneytary is effective, make employee feel recognized, valued, blablabla...

2. non-moneytary itself without money won't work. people need money... money is a big driver... blabla...

3. The right policy to reward employee should be a combination of these two. need to consider a lot of factors to strike a balance. blabla....

Non-moneytary is not always effective and how do you simply know that Non... is more effective than moneytary, and money and bonus could also be the way to make employees feel recognized, valued, ....

All the motivation should be quantified as the numbers to be clear about. So, 1. for small companies cann't afford the complexity of the so called non-moneytary system could simply rely on the money ....2, for big enterprises have clearer vista or big dreams as well as capacity to afford the motivation system , non should be counted....  ex microsoft   blah

the efficiency of the emplyees is the ultimate goal .  we cann't be blured by such ....

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