求决选校建议！SSE VS Bocconi VS McGill VS UCL (各国混申党)

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cheesechan 发表于 2017-2-20 16:27
1. SSE = Bocconi
2. For finance/financial industry,  economics is more relevant than management
3. ...

Hi, cheesechan.

What do you think of ESSEC GE and Bocconi Master of Science in Finance?

Thx.

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qcduan7 发表于 2017-2-23 02:38
我是UCL本科，个人感觉UCL的研究生质量和本科生还是差了很远。当然回国的话肯定是UCL，想留在欧洲就业的话 ...

请问一下，就你了解 伦敦工作的bocconi学生中国人数量多吗？谢谢

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cheesechan 发表于 2017-2-27 16:28
想了一想。歐洲讀書+consulting,也不是100%不行，但應該去法國或者德國。

At the end,  法文/德文區市場 ...

I just went through this reply.

What I want to add is that my target is Financial Sector. Do you still vote for ESSEC GE rather than Bocconi MSF?

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cheesechan 发表于 2017-2-28 22:37
tough decision. slightly prefer Bocconi MSF in this case if you don't speak French and Italian.

Yep. Total two new languages for me. I don't bother to acquire financial theories or even pursue phd programs.

BTW, I think:
Firstly, Bocconi MSF:  
more quant&practice  +2
more chances at the second year (DD with HEC/SSE and Advanced Economics Programs with Yale,etc) +1
less Chinese +1
less fee +1
Italian less popular than French -1
Italian sluggish economy -2

                              
Secondly ESSEC GE:
more networking opportunities and chairs    +1
a gap year to find a valuable internship/apprenticeship +2
more international with students from many countries  +1
general courses in the first year (overlapping my courses of Bachelor) -1

the points just show my relative preferences for these aspects.
Waiting for your comments.

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cheesechan 发表于 2017-2-28 23:04
- Given you dont speak the local language, the chances of staying Paris or Milan after study is sm ...

- Yep. Of course I would learn Italian if I chose Bocconi, given that I plan to work in Europe for a few years.

- I was just told from my alumni who attends ESSEC GE that core & financial courses are not very worth spending time on and the big asset of ESSEC is the platform and other resources, such as Chairs, Exchange Program and Internship.

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cheesechan 发表于 2017-2-28 23:41
1. ....the issue of Italy is not language, but economy + language.........

2. those chair and etc ...

1. Yep. This two issues are the obstacles I guess, especially compared to Paris.

2. I would learn French and use these resources. If i could learn local languages (around B2-C1 level) in the first year, you still prefer Bocconi MSF right?

Thanks a lot.

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cheesechan 发表于 2017-3-1 00:21
2. If you can do this.......I will suggest ESSEC then for sure. Lower risk.
but this is a very dif ...

So you recommended Bocconi MSF before, based on:
1 I won't learn local languages in either school.
2 I have to find a job offer in other European countries (such as Germany, London)

right? Because you care more about the overall reputation. So Bocconi > ESSEC

Then you changed your mind, because:
1 I plan to learn local languages
2 I could use the local network resources

So now ESSEC > Bocconi.

Does it make sense?

Waiting for your comments if I misunderstand you.

Thanks for your time. Mr.Cheese.

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cheesechan 发表于 2017-3-1 00:33
yes, it really depends on much / fast you can take up French, and leverage the local advantage in  ...

Many thanks for your advice, Mr. Cheese.

Cheers,

Qian.