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标题: 多大岁数的MBA应该放弃投行、咨询梦? [打印本页]

作者: bolan    时间: 2006-3-26 17:10
标题: 多大岁数的MBA应该放弃投行、咨询梦?

虽然说一切皆有可能,环顾四周我们甚至也能看到不少岁数不小却进了投行、咨询的个案,但是亲爱的朋友,我们的抉择还是要建立在行业潜规则和统计概率的基础上的。


因为没做过投行、也没做过咨询,所以想征询一下达人,MBA毕业多大岁数时应该不用寄望于进投行、做咨询了?30岁?32?35?


3x


作者: iwannafly    时间: 2006-3-26 17:14
咨询好些,30大几的人进入投行的机会少。
作者: bolan    时间: 2006-3-26 18:35

三十大几的,进咨询,应该也是从基层做起。如果不是有特别的长处,估计雇主还是倾向于招年轻点、能吃苦、能加班的吧?


作者: thankceleste    时间: 2006-3-26 18:50

记得有个笑话,说中国的明星主持都是年轻漂亮的小姑娘;而国外的大牌主持都是白头翁。知道为什么吗?


投行也有许多细分的职业的,年龄不是绝对的,关键是你自己是不是真的适合做投行。


作者: bolan    时间: 2006-3-26 20:30
以下是引用thankceleste在2006-3-26 18:50:00的发言:

投行也有许多细分的职业的,年龄不是绝对的,关键是你自己是不是真的适合做投行。


能不能详细地解析一下呢?谢谢!


作者: yorkzhong    时间: 2006-3-26 21:11
我猜测更多的是你的体力的限制和你是否愿意与28岁年轻人从同一个level起步
作者: zdcgy    时间: 2006-3-26 23:36
there are different positions in MC and IB, so you do not necessarily start with entry level job.
作者: bolan    时间: 2006-3-26 23:52

记得好象有文章介绍投行以及咨询里面具体的职位,一时找不到了.谁能给个连接呢?


作者: yorkzhong    时间: 2006-3-26 23:55
以下是引用zdcgy在2006-3-26 23:36:00的发言:
there are different positions in MC and IB, so you do not necessarily start with entry level job.


but for an MBA graduate I guess the highest level you can get in MC is associate, which can also be fufilled by those younger MBA who have previous MC experience.


Not sure about IB.


作者: redsoxfan    时间: 2006-3-27 00:09

Freshly-minted MBAs enter management consulting as Associate (McKinsey) or Consultant (BCG/Bain) no matter how old you are or how much experience you have before.  Most associates I have met are in their late 20s or early 30s.  Very rare to see entering Associates older than 35.  I guess two reasons.  First, there is a self selection - when you are in late 30s you probably have already started a family and consulting is tough lifestyle.  You don't get to see your spouse and kids from Monday to Thursday and you work long hours.  Second, the firms may be hesitant to hire you given your chance of making partner before 40 is slim.  It's a little odd for the Associate to work with a partner who may be a lot younger than you.  That said, it's not entirely impossible.  Have seen at least two Associates in the range of 34-36.


作者: zdcgy    时间: 2006-3-27 00:52
以下是引用yorkzhong在2006-3-26 23:55:00的发言:



but for an MBA graduate I guess the highest level you can get in MC is associate, which can also be fufilled by those younger MBA who have previous MC experience.


Not sure about IB.


Yes, I agree. And my previous comment was based on the assumption that LZ has several years' w/e after MBA study.


作者: 黑猫警长    时间: 2006-3-27 09:35
以下是引用yorkzhong在2006-3-26 23:55:00的发言:



but for an MBA graduate I guess the highest level you can get in MC is associate, which can also be fufilled by those younger MBA who have previous MC experience.


Not sure about IB.


我认识几个MCKINSEY的都是MBA毕业直接做CONSULTANT的


作者: eeyupyup    时间: 2006-3-27 09:50

I heard age is more a problem for a banker. Since most bankers have to work some crazy hours for the first years. Age definitely will be an issue when a 35 years old has to compete against a 28.



作者: nautic    时间: 2006-3-27 14:46

是梦想就永远不要放弃


但是,你确定这就是你的人生梦想?   



作者: jkmbe    时间: 2006-3-27 22:46
MC/IB好象是(相对)最不考虑先前工作经验的吧, 换而言之, 工作经验丰富与27-8岁的同学在竞争的时候未必会有很大的优势, 但个人觉得, MBA不等于咨询/投行, 提升下自己, 开阔下眼界, 在回到自己原来的行业说不定也会有意想不到的结果.


作者: cicilla    时间: 2006-3-27 23:22

在咨询公司,如果有很丰富的行业经验了,提升会很快的。


有人5年做到partner,进去的时候都要40岁了。他行业经验丰富,做起项目来很顺手的,比较少纸上谈兵。


作者: Swinerton    时间: 2006-3-28 02:16
以下是引用jkmbe在2006-3-27 22:46:00的发言:
MC/IB好象是(相对)最不考虑先前工作经验的吧, 换而言之, 工作经验丰富与27-8岁的同学在竞争的时候未必会有很大的优势, 但个人觉得, MBA不等于咨询/投行, 提升下自己, 开阔下眼界, 在回到自己原来的行业说不定也会有意想不到的结果.


don't know about MC. For IB, previous experience is a big plus sometimes.


作者: coffemug    时间: 2006-3-28 03:26

Age has never been a problem if you have a young heart.  


作者: zsz_219    时间: 2008-2-26 15:07
ding
作者: FlowerJay    时间: 2008-2-26 16:14

内什么,我看着年轻!看着年轻啊!


作者: betty7772222    时间: 2008-2-26 16:53
哈哈,看着年轻更惨,我就常被别人当成下属的下属。
作者: FlowerJay    时间: 2008-2-26 17:55

楼上同志拥抱一下。。。。delivery得人总是和我说,'this packet can only be sign the the person in charge....'

然后我爆走。。。。


作者: littleca    时间: 2008-2-26 23:13

这个贴惊起高人无数


作者: kingner0913    时间: 2008-2-26 23:16

偶起搬个凳子起~~~ 你们聊哈


作者: kingner0913    时间: 2008-2-26 23:18
不过照这个说法, 30-2=28 ~~~ 也就是说最好大家都28之前申请到牛校MBA 然后进去IB或者咨询了???
作者: abcd1234ef    时间: 2008-2-27 01:33
那我完了,有一天踢球一个韩国小本科对我说,这位大叔踢得真不错。
作者: HooSelect    时间: 2008-2-27 02:13
咨询分为很多种,有些是越老越吃香
作者: 李大衛    时间: 2008-2-27 08:11

See what happened in consulting industry this year

only 20+ fresh MBA got in BCG in Greater China

see how many consulting firms out there

and see how many people are applying mba every year

simply see how many members on this website

devide by the years it runs

the posibility is about 10 consultants out of 10,000 applicants

it's not about the age

it's about how competitive you are

and if you want to be a consultant

first thing is to be able to analyze yourself

analyze your own career

if you cannot handle your very own career

how can you analyze anything else?


作者: sanxiangsai    时间: 2008-2-27 11:01
标题: meaningful post~~

really make sense~~~

know yourself first, then the world


作者: liangn97    时间: 2008-2-27 11:24

个人觉得28以上做IB就已经有点old……

咨询可能不太一样,需要些阅历吧,so still have a chance...


作者: 慕容楠生    时间: 2008-2-27 14:20
我觉得应该说是做好放弃的心理准备,而不是放弃这个dream.
作者: kingner0913    时间: 2008-2-27 15:52
如果要28前做IB 那么28之前怎么拿到牛校MBA呢? 24 毕业 26 就要去申请? 争取28MBA 毕业了?
作者: FlowerJay    时间: 2008-2-27 16:16

朋友们要有誓死35不结婚的决心汉一颗年轻的心。。。。


作者: initialcd    时间: 2008-2-27 17:08
总觉得过了20岁,年龄就飞速增长了。。。。
心态很重要,心态很重要。。。

作者: 慕容楠生    时间: 2008-2-27 17:40
以下是引用FlowerJay在2008-2-27 16:16:00的发言:

朋友们要有誓死35不结婚的决心汉一颗年轻的心。。。。

决心汉=负心汉+花心汉哈。
作者: hubrisray    时间: 2008-2-28 11:39
完全看个人,,要说放弃50再放弃把
作者: stq    时间: 2008-2-28 12:35

average age among top MBA program = 28, so the average age on graduation will be around 30.

over 35 might be abit too old.

you have to ask yourself:  once you have family/kids and everything, can you still handle the workload?  can you still fly out every Monday morning and don't get home until Thur night for every single week?


作者: arthur05    时间: 2009-10-8 16:18

挖坟了

读MBA平均年龄一般28左右,毕业30.

很多MBA结束才开始做IB, consulting,那不都30多点了么...






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