Ask Jon Frank- P69-Q&A:WHY MBA? 7 OVERLOOKED REASONS TO GET AN MBA

JonFrank · 发表于 2010-12-20 15:15:34

hi jon

i have one question.

in why now section, if i mention my failure in interviews for my target companies such as boston consulting, bain consulting, and in business proposal for taking some small size companies to china, it can make sense or bring negitive impact to my applications ? Initially i just want to express i can get interview chance by my current resume but i need to learn what i lack by MBA. But i can not be sure MBA admission how to think. I ask my friends, MBA students, they suggest me no to include. Can you give me some suggestions ?

-- by 会员 himici (2010/12/20 9:29:27)

Hey there! Thanks so much for the note. Happy to offer up some thoughts here. Honestly my friend, if I were you...I would agree with your friends. If you had these interviews, and didnt get the job, why should you get into bschool? After all, you will be applying against some people who DID get those jobs. And an MBA wont teach you how to interview necessarily, it will teach you how to think, solve problems, etc. So I would agree with your friends--lets leave it out. Thats your safest move.

Now. One additional thought. You could say that you have reached out with and met with many people from these firms. Ha! They wouldnt need to know that you met them...in interviews, and you never got the job offers. But you WILL get credit for doing the research of getting in touch with these people. That is probably the smartest way to treat this scenario. Good luck...

Jon Frank

himici · 发表于 2010-12-20 16:13:08

thank for your suggestion. I would think again how to treat this scenario.

CDJJMM · 发表于 2010-12-20 19:11:37

Dear Jon,

Thanks a lot for your dedication for helping the Chinese applicants. May I ask a question about how school values applicants' background?

Do you think that the applicant's company brand helps with the profile? How about the job function? I'm curious how the schools value the non-mainstream jobs in a blue chip company. For example, HR person from McKinsey， IT person from Morgan Stanley or Operation person from UBS. I understand that it's the whole package that counts, but I'd like to learn if these company name helps even if you are in a non mainstream division.

By observing the admits on chasedream, I found that HBS tends to admit student from IB/PE background. Do you agree they have that preference?

BTW, Jon, do you think the undergraduate school reputation makes a difference? Top 2 local schools are well known. What about top 5, top 10? Does it make a difference in the application? Or Adcom only cares about famous undergraduate schools in US & UK?

Thanks in adavance.

greekhero · 发表于 2010-12-21 18:27:48

Dear John thanks for your contribution here.

I would sinerely seek your advice on below essay question

"Comment on the barriers you encountered that impacted your team's ability to realize its full potential"

I think this essay should focus on "comment on the barrier" , so I am going to write the underlining incentives for this barriar, the negative consequency and also I will introduce the The possible solutions, all the general things.

Should I involve the details about how I address this barrier? since there are 250 word limit for this essay.
Hope get your advice. Thanks in advance!

mmfruit · 发表于 2010-12-22 00:25:39

Dear Jon, Thank you so much for giving valuable advice here.
I want to seek your help on how to improve the possiblity of admission since I am WL by the school I want to be admited most.
Hope you can give me some suggestions. Thanks

JonFrank · 发表于 2010-12-22 00:26:39

Dear Jon,

Thanks a lot for your dedication for helping the Chinese applicants. May I ask a question about how school values applicants' background?

Do you think that the applicant's company brand helps with the profile? How about the job function? I'm curious how the schools value the non-mainstream jobs in a blue chip company. For example, HR person from McKinsey， IT person from Morgan Stanley or Operation person from UBS. I understand that it's the whole package that counts, but I'd like to learn if these company name helps even if you are in a non mainstream division.

By observing the admits on chasedream, I found that HBS tends to admit student from IB/PE background. Do you agree they have that preference?

BTW, Jon, do you think the undergraduate school reputation makes a difference? Top 2 local schools are well known. What about top 5, top 10? Does it make a difference in the application? Or Adcom only cares about famous undergraduate schools in US & UK?

Thanks in adavance.

-- by 会员 CDJJMM (2010/12/20 19:11:37)

Hey there! All good questions. To answer your first question, yes brand can help. But not if it means that you didn’t have any good job responsibilities. As we have mentioned—BOTH are positive for applications. Either working at a brand name company, or doing a lot of cool stuff. That is why the folks with BOTH of these experiences get into bschool. It is great to have both great responsibilities, AND experience with a great firm. It is also rare. So yes, the name can help—but so can job responsibilities. And if you are doing a LOT (even if for the IT group at Goldman, etc.) you’re in business.
In terms of HBS, they have been surprising a lot of people this year. A few more PhDs this year than previously, and a few LESS big name PE and IB guys. With their new dean, they appear to be shooting for less traditional candidates. And yes, schools DO know great schools from less great ones—even in China. We in the US know some top undergrad schools in China—great undergrad programs are especially meaningful in making up for weak gmat scores…

Jon Frank

JonFrank · 发表于 2010-12-22 00:36:20

Dear John thanks for your contribution here.

I would sinerely seek your advice on below essay question

"Comment on the barriers you encountered that impacted your team's ability to realize its full potential"

I think this essay should focus on "comment on the barrier" , so I am going to write the underlining incentives for this barriar, the negative consequency and also I will introduce the The possible solutions, all the general things.

Should I involve the details about how I address this barrier? since there are 250 word limit for this essay.
Hope get your advice. Thanks in advance!

-- by 会员 greekhero (2010/12/21 18:27:48)

Hey there. Yes, you absolutely SHOULD talk about what you did. After all, you are applying to bschool, not the barrier. J So what does this mean? Id shoot for half and half. Half laying out the barriers, and half talking about what YOU DID about em. After all, ALL of your essays need to be about what you did. You need to prove that YOU are good enough for bschool, not the barriers…

Jon Frank

JonFrank · 发表于 2010-12-22 01:03:47

Dear Jon, Thank you so much for giving valuable advice here.
I want to seek your help on how to improve the possiblity of admission since I am WL by the school I want to be admited most.
Hope you can give me some suggestions. Thanks

-- by 会员 mmfruit (2010/12/22 0:25:39)

Hey there , thanks for the note
It would be our pleasure to help, feel free to reach out to me in person.. Hope to hear from you soon!

Jon Frank

圈圈1120 · 发表于 2010-12-26 22:20:54

good one ...very impressive

chengya · 发表于 2010-12-28 12:50:31

Hi, Jon,

I wonder how important the online application form is. There are places we need to describe job duties, activities, community services etc. Do we need to fill out these as well as we did on essays? Or the forms actually only are used to generate general information? Lots of places I put very concise description there, and some of them not even reach half of their words limitation. I just don't have idea how much efforts we put on these online form, do we need to put same effort to describe an activity, job duties as we do on essays, or we just need to put correct info there is enough. Can you give me some insight? Thank you very much.

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