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gwd 10-25 急!

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楼主
发表于 2005-3-14 18:30:00 | 只看该作者

gwd 10-25 急!

另有讨论链接,我发在18楼,因为位置太靠后, 所以我在这里再发一下。


http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=25&star=2&replyid=672547&id=68499&skin=0&page=1


In Winters v. United States



(1908), the Supreme Court held




that the right to use waters flow-




ing through or adjacent to the




(5) Fort Berthold Indian Reservation




was reserved to American Indians




by the treaty establishing the reservation.




Although this treaty did




not mention water rights, the Court




(10) ruled that the federal government,




when it created the reservation,




intended to deal fairly with




American Indians by preserving




for them the waters without which




(15) their lands would have been use




less. Later decisions, citing




Winters, established that courts




can find federal rights to reserve




water for particular purposes if




(20) (1) the land in question lies within




an enclave under exclusive federal




jurisdiction, (2) the land has been




formally withdrawn from federal




public lands — i.e., withdrawn from




(25) the stock of federal lands available




for private use under federal




land use laws — and set aside or




reserved, and (3) the circumstances




reveal the government




(30) intended to reserve water as well




as land when establishing the




reservation.




Some American Indian tribes




have also established water rights




(35) through the courts based on their




traditional diversion and use of




certain waters prior to the United




States’ acquisition of sovereignty.




For example, the Rio Grande




(40) pueblos already existed when the




United States acquired sovereignty




over New Mexico in 1848. Although




they at that time became part of the




United States, the pueblo lands




(45) never formally constituted a part




of federal public lands; in any




event, no treaty, statute, or executive




order has ever designated




or withdrawn the pueblos from




(50) public lands as American Indian




reservations. This fact, however,




has not barred application




of the Winters doctrine. What




constitutes an American Indian




(55) reservation is a question of




practice, not of legal definition,




and the pueblos have always




been treated as reservations by




the United States. This pragmatic




(60) approach is buttressed by Arizona




v. California (1963), wherein the




Supreme Court indicated that the




manner in which any type of federal




reservation is created does not




(65) affect the application to it of the




Winters doctrine. Therefore, the




reserved water rights of Pueblo




Indians have priority over other




citizens’ water rights as of 1848,




(70) the year in which pueblos must




be considered to have become



Q25:


The author cites the fact that the Rio Grande pueblos were never formally withdrawn from public lands primarily in order to do which of the following?




A. Suggest why it might have been argued that the Winters doctrine ought not to



apply to pueblo lands



B. Imply that the United States never really acquired sovereignty over pueblo lands




C. Argue that the pueblo lands ought still to be considered part of federal public




lands




D. Support the argument that the water rights of citizens other than American Indians are limited by the Winters doctrine




E. Suggest that federal courts cannot claim jurisdiction over cases disputing the




traditional diversion and use of water by Pueblo Indians


我认为此题应该选C,正确答案是A。 我并不认同3楼的观点,引用如下:


我想,做这篇文章的关键是要看到作者对第二段开头的那个观点(印地安人在美国政府建立之前就在那片土地上生活,所以,最高法院的那些原则不适用于印地安人)持否定态度


我认为第2段是对第1段所提的3点适用范围的以外适用情况的解释,所以应选C。


另外,请注意如下高亮部分: 


reservations. This fact, however,




has not barred application



of the Winters doctrine. What




constitutes an American Indian




(55) reservation is a question of




practice, not of legal definition,




and the pueblos have always




been treated as reservations by




the United States.


另附我认同的11楼的段落大意: 


第一段:1908年,在某个例案中,高级法院根据一项关于建立印第安人保留区的treaty,规定联邦政府必须保证保留区内印第安人的水权。之后,又作出了详细的规定,规定在以下三种情况下联邦政府可行使该项权利:1、...2、...3、...


第二段:RG这样一个印第安地区,虽然不符合以上1、2两种情况(情况3没有讨论),但事实上也遵循了winter doctrine. 因为,尽管没有正式的文件,但RG一直都被联邦政府视为保留区....最后,还有一个1963年的法律规定联邦政府设立保留区的方式并不影响到这种保留区遵循winter doctrine,因此,最终确定了RG的水权。


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沙发
发表于 2005-3-15 10:11:00 | 只看该作者

我想,做这篇文章的关键是要看到作者对第二段开头的那个观点(印地安人在美国政府建立之前就在那片土地上生活,所以,最高法院的那些原则不适用于印地安人)持否定态度



..... But how comes?
板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2005-3-15 15:27:00 | 只看该作者
我并没有觉得原文对第二段持否定态度。我不知道C如何错,A又如何对。
地板
发表于 2005-3-16 07:02:00 | 只看该作者

I vote the answer A. Something below is what I think:

in the first sentence, the author tells us that "In Winters v. United States (1908), the Supreme Court held that the right to use waters flowing through or adjacent to the Fort Berthold Indian Reservation was reserved to American Indians by the treaty establishing the reservation. " In the second paragragh, the author tells us that the Rio Grande pueblos already existed when the United States acquired sovereignty over New Mexico in 1848. Although they at that time became part of the United States, the pueblo lands never formally constituted a part of federal public lands; in any event, no treaty, statute, or executive order has ever designated or withdrawn the pueblos from public lands as American Indian reservations. Then the author cites the fact suggest why it might have been auged that Winters doctrine ought not to apply to pueblo lands, as answer A states.

Furthermore, the author began to describe, however, this fact has not barred application of the Winters doctrine.

5#
发表于 2005-3-16 11:06:00 | 只看该作者
偶还是倾向于A

A的解释:暗示为什么在Winters doctrine不应该适用于pueblo lands这点上可能曾经存在过争议

C的问题:实际上作者应该是认为pueblo lands不属于federal public lands;关于federal public lands,可以在前面三条中的第二条上得到一些线索。
6#
发表于 2005-4-7 12:16:00 | 只看该作者

For example, the Rio Grande
(40) pueblos already existed when the
United States acquired sovereignty
over New Mexico in 1848. Although
they at that time became part of the
United States, the pueblo lands
(45) never formally constituted a part
of federal public lands; in any
event, no treaty, statute, or executive
order has ever designated
or withdrawn the pueblos from
(50) public lands as American Indian
reservations
. This fact, however,
has not barred application
of the Winters doctrine
.

蓝色的部分以及前面的铺垫说:以前没有把RG作为federal public lands的一部分,也(注意那个分号!!!),没有任何法规把RG withdraw from federal public lands。

黄色highlight部分说:但是这个事实不能阻止Winters条例的应用。(也就是说,这些事实可以反对,但是还不够,作者后面有强大的理由来反对。)

然后后面继续解释:

What constitutes an American Indian
(55) reservation is a question of
practice, not of legal definition,
and the pueblos have always
been treated as reservations by
the United States.

因此选A,和全文主旨一致。

C不是作者叙述的重点。也不是其想表达的内容。

7#
发表于 2005-4-7 14:38:00 | 只看该作者

I vote A. The first sentence of P2 states that Some American Indian tribes have also established water rights (35) through the courts based on their traditional diversion and use of certain waters prior to the United States’ acquisition of sovereignty. The legal base is different from the 3 criteria mentioned in the first paragraph. So it suggests that even there are some criteria can not be met then some tribes still can reserve water rights.  Then P2 provides example of Rio Grande to illustrate this point. Explaining that Rio Grande doesn't meet the first and second criteria, the author asserts that This fact, however,  has not barred application of the Winters doctrine because it is a problem of practice and pragmatic use but not of legal definition.

so The author cites the fact that the Rio Grande pueblos were never formally withdrawn from public lands primarily in order to . Suggest why it might have been argued that the Winters doctrine ought not to apply to pueblo lands because it does not meet the second criteria.

If as C says that the pueblo lands ought still to be considered part of federal public lands, then it contracdict with the paragraph: Although they at that time became part of the United States, the pueblo lands (45) never formally constituted a part of federal public lands.

that's the reason I chose A. Open to discuss.

8#
发表于 2005-4-7 14:56:00 | 只看该作者

I chose A. The first sentence of the second paragraph states that Some American Indian tribes have also established water rights (35) through the courts based on their traditional diversion and use of certain waters prior to the United States’ acquisition of sovereignty.  The legal base is different from any of the 3 criteria mentioned in the first paragraph. So it suggests that even none of the criteria is met then some indian tribes can reserve the water right. Then the author provides the example of Rio Grande tribe to illustrate this point. Explaining that Rio Grande tribe case does't meet the first and second criteria, the author then asserts that This fact, however, has not barred application of the Winters doctrine because the water rights is a problem of practice and pragmatic use but not of legal definition.

So The author cites the fact that the Rio Grande pueblos were never formally withdrawn from public lands primarily in order to Suggest why it might have been argued that the Winters doctrine ought not to apply to pueblo lands because it does not meet the second criteria

If as C said that Argue that the pueblo lands ought still to be considered part of federal public lands, then it contradicts the passage:  Although they at that time became part of the United States, the pueblo lands (45) never formally constituted a part of federal public lands.

9#
发表于 2006-6-13 15:15:00 | 只看该作者

嗯,应该是A了。

10#
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