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[校友答疑] NYU Stern MBA Class of 2012 & 2013答疑帖

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21#
发表于 2011-3-8 23:57:42 | 只看该作者
不错不错
我猜你们也常常去故乡味吧
22#
发表于 2011-3-9 00:46:06 | 只看该作者
想请问大行会来招trader associate吗?似乎都是去IBD的占大多数,是大行trading方面从MBA招的少,更prefer MFE所以机会较少吗?
能简单介绍下stern对于想要做trading的同学的资源吗?一般进去的是做哪类产品较多?trading对pre-MBA的背景有什么偏好吗?
23#
发表于 2011-3-9 01:01:09 | 只看该作者

你们进入投资银行都看GPA么?

中国同学和老外比有啥优势啊?你们是成绩特别好,还是英语特别流利?

我们学校不在美国,今年我们没有一个亚洲同学进入任何投行实习,包括在这里长大,读书和工作的华人,因为投行只要老外。

中国同学首先成绩必须要足够好,才有机会拿到面试,GPA没有3.6啥的,自己就别想了。
拿到面试的老外也不是傻子啊,成绩和你一样好,口语又比你强,为啥要让中国人在北美的投行工作呢?每个投行不是都只招1至2人么?

请问你们STERN的老外同学也几乎都能进入投行么?中国同学的优势是啥啊?
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发表于 2011-3-9 01:14:51 | 只看该作者
中国同学和老外比有啥优势啊?你们是成绩特别好,还是英语特别流利?

我们学校不在美国,今年我们没有一个亚洲同学进入任何投行实习,包括在这里长大,读书和工作的华人,因为投行只要老外。

中国同学首先成绩必须要足够好,才有机会拿到面试,GPA没有3.6啥的,自己就别想了。
拿到面试的老外也不是傻子啊,成绩和你一样好,口语又比你强,为啥要让中国人在北美的投行工作呢?每个投行不是都只招1至2人么?

请问你们STERN的老外同学也几乎都能进入投行么?中国同学的优势是啥啊?
-- by 会员 jjjyyy2008 (2011/3/9 1:01:09)



你在哪个国家啊?
25#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-3-9 01:43:00 | 只看该作者
1、Trading. 我已把问题转给S&T的同学们,请等待回复。

2、中国同学为什么能进投行:携隐等等诸多大侠已经谈了太多,这里说说一些关于Stern的facts吧:
1)成绩:应该不是主要因素,尽管申请投行的时候有些投行会要求填本科GPA和预期MBA毕业时的GPA,不过Stern校方也有政策保护学生在申请时包括面试时有权不透露自己的GPA,至少我面试的时候没人问我GPA;
2)外语:至少我在面试一些亚洲投行的时候,英语汉语面试一半一半,甚至有的汉语面试占到75%;至于美国投行,如果你当初能通过MBA Adcom interview,那你的interview English肯定够用了,至于social English,做足准备功课就一定能和banker找到共同话题,口音不重要,态度更重要;
3)名额:每个投行只招1至2人?应该不会。至少从Stern看,华人+老外offer,无论大行小行都远远远远不止;另外,老外的和华人的offer概率差不多。举个例子:我们study group 5个人,3个BB IBD,一个黑人搞互联网创业,一个金发大妞做Luxury marketing(很有可能会嫁个banker同学)
4)和老外竞争:不要怕,be professional,be likable,做足功课提好问题,简历, social, interview不要犯错,自信,低调,要相信招聘过程是个十分有结构性系统性的过程,你如果真的准备好,就能提高成功概率;而无论肤色人种背景,只要没准备好,谁都会被踢掉。什么大陆背景、海外背景、投行背景、老外背景,我见过各种排列组合里的成功和失败的例子,同时我身边的sample size也不算大,所以真的不好总结出什么特定优势来,请谅。

用一个老外投行MD校友的话来小结:我能在一英里以外闻出来哪些人是真心想进投行。
26#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-3-9 05:16:09 | 只看该作者
关于Sales & Trading的答复之一:

问:想请问大行会来NYU Stern招trader associate吗?

答:Yes BB come to Stern to recruit for Global Markets (Sales & Trading) divison. In general, the feeling I got from recruiting seems like S&T division dont have a strong preference for MBAs/Masters because 1) BB dont have that many turnover at the associate level, hence there is no strong need to recruit at that level. 2) They prefer to recruit undergrads to MBAs/Masters because they are less expensive and are as fresh as most MBA/Masters (ie no experience in S&T).
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-3-9 05:17:32 | 只看该作者
关于Sales & Trading的答复之二:

问:似乎NYU Stern都是去IBD的占大多数,是大行trading方面从MBA招的少,更prefer MFE所以机会较少吗?
答:Yes it is true that more Stern MBAs (even other MBA schools), are going into IBD than S&T because 1) There is a much larger demand for MBAs in IBD, 2) Also there is generally a larger interest in IBD than S&T. I am biased and will say BB prefer MBA to MFE because 1) Stern is a top finance school, and BBs know that, 2) MBA students have stronger soft skills due to the greater variety of subjects that they take at school, 3) lastly, perhaps most MBA students have some number of working experience, hence will be more matured. BUT, I can see why BBs might also think MFE is good, because MFE is more technical and numbers-driven. So depends on what skills you want to build, if you feel like you come across very personable and have strong soft skills, go to a well-known MFE school and recruit, if you feel like you already have a strong quant background, go to a MBA school to improve your soft skills. But note, at the end of the day, BBs wil need to like you to want to give you an opportunity, so as long as you are in 1 of their target schools, you have the chance to impress them when you meet them. Oh lastly, if you are solely interested in being a trader, you might want to consider an MFE over an MBA, just because Trading is more quantitative than Sales.
28#
 楼主| 发表于 2011-3-9 05:24:09 | 只看该作者
关于Sales & Trading的答复之三、四:

问:Trading对pre-MBA的背景有什么偏好吗?
答:Not particularly, but if you have a prior S&T background, obviously BBs will give you a closer look.

问:能简单介绍下NYU Stern对于想要做Trading的同学的资源吗?一般进去的是做哪类产品较多?
答:
1)资源:教授和课程很多,此处不赘述。俱乐部方面,除了GFA以外,Stern还有个Sales & Trading Club,一定要参加。
Stern's S&T club organizes speaker events, notify members of trading competitions, mock interviews from MBA2s that went through the process to guide you through recruiting. Club officers/members who previous worked in trading or spent their summer interning at a BB trading desk are more than helpful in answering any questions regarding their experience and expectations. 对了,上次我们组织HK Trek,一行人马到了香港以后,发现BB里面Trader alum不比IBD的少,而且很热心,组织我们参观trading floor, etc.
2)Depending on the BBs, their program ranges from rotational to a direct placement onto a desk. You can highlight your interests, but it depends on business needs too.
29#
发表于 2011-3-9 09:40:26 | 只看该作者
据我了解,大陆护照6个人中,有些也是在美国干了好几年的,是不是以前就是街上的就不知道了。
30#
发表于 2011-3-9 14:33:46 | 只看该作者
关于Sales & Trading的答复之一:

问:想请问大行会来NYU Stern招trader associate吗?

答:Yes BB come to Stern to recruit for Global Markets (Sales & Trading) divison. In general, the feeling I got from recruiting seems like S&T division dont have a strong preference for MBAs/Masters because 1) BB dont have that many turnover at the associate level, hence there is no strong need to recruit at that level. 2) They prefer to recruit undergrads to MBAs/Masters because they are less expensive and are as fresh as most MBA/Masters (ie no experience in S&T).
-- by 会员 肥的李敖 (2011/3/9 5:16:09)



超出意料,我的问题居然得到了如此详细的回答。真是很感谢~
我现在在某外资IB做equity rsch, 职业兴趣和目标还是trading。请问我该如何挖掘rsch和trading间的transferable skills?另外,之前提到去BarcCap的2位同学是做S还是T呢?什么产品?是通过ST club里的资源找到的吗?
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